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Roth IRAs

What are the benefits of a Roth IRA?

Withdrawals
Withdrawals of earnings from your Roth account are income tax-free as long as you're at least 59½ years old and have had the account for the minimum holding period (currently five years).

Also, unlike traditional 401(k)s and IRAs, Roth accounts don't require you to take minimum distributions starting at age 70½. However, if you convert to a Roth IRA after age 70½, you still have to take one final required minimum distribution (RMD) from your traditional retirement account for the conversion year.

With a Roth IRA, you also have the ability to take qualified early distributions without paying the early distribution penalty. Early distribution exceptions include, but are not limited to:

  • Qualified higher education expenses.
  • First-time home purchases.
  • Qualified medical expenses.
  • Qualified disability claims.
Taxes
If you think you'll be in the same or a higher tax bracket when you retire, it's likely that the taxes you pay on the Roth conversion today would be less than the taxes you'd pay on traditional IRA or 401(k) withdrawals during retirement.

Estate planning
By paying tax on the conversion up front, you eliminate the income tax your heirs would otherwise have to pay on withdrawals from an inherited traditional IRA.

Also, because you're not required to take minimum distributions from your Roth account, it can continue to grow tax-free until your heirs are ready to withdraw the money. All non-spouse beneficiaries must take RMDs once the Roth account is inherited. A spousal beneficiary may delay RMDs until the date that the decedent would have been 70½ years old, or can treat the Roth IRA as his or her own.

 

Roth IRA conversion basics


What is a Roth IRA conversion?
A Roth IRA conversion allows eligible individuals to convert their traditional retirement assets (such as a traditional IRA or 401(k)) to a Roth IRA. Those eligible can choose to convert part or all of their traditional retirement assets.

What’s changing about Roth IRA conversion in 2010?
  • The IRS is lifting the MAGI limits in 2010 (currently $100,000 or less), thereby making anyone who holds a traditional IRA account eligible to convert it to a Roth IRA.
  • A conversion is usually reported as income for the tax year the conversion takes place. However, in 2010 only, your conversion amount will be split and reported as income for tax years 2011 and 2012 unless you elect to report the entire conversion amount on your 2010 taxes.

Which accounts can be converted to a Roth IRA?
You can currently convert traditional IRAs and certain employer-sponsored retirement accounts (such as 401(k)s) to a Roth IRA account. However, in the case of inherited accounts, you can only convert to a Roth IRA if you inherited the traditional IRA from your spouse. Check with your plan administrator and Roth IRA provider.

Who can convert to a Roth IRA?
There is no age limit for converting traditional retirement assets to a Roth IRA.

In 2009, you're eligible to convert to a Roth IRA if your MAGI is $100,000 or less.

In 2010, the IRS is lifting the MAGI limit, meaning everyone will be eligible to convert to a Roth IRA.

Although the IRS is lifting the MAGI limit for conversions, it's important to note that the MAGI limits will still apply for Roth IRA contributions (read more).
 
Can I convert to a Roth IRA even if my MAGI is more than $100,000?
In 2009, you're only eligible to convert to a Roth IRA if your MAGI is $100,000 or less.

In 2010, the IRS is lifting the MAGI limit, meaning everyone will be eligible to convert a Traditional IRA to a Roth IRA.

What is a partial conversion?
A partial conversion gives you flexibility to choose how much of your traditional retirement assets you'd like to move into a Roth IRA account. Investors who choose partial conversions instead of full conversions likely do so for one or both of the following reasons:

  • Income taxes: A full conversion, which requires you to report all of the conversion amount as income on your taxes, may end up bumping you deep into a higher federal tax bracket. If you get bumped to a slightly higher tax rate, such as from the 25% bracket into the 28% bracket, the conversion benefits might outweigh the difference in taxes. However, if the conversion causes you to move to a substantially higher tax rate, say from the 15% bracket to the 25% bracket, the increase in taxes owed could be substantial (depending on how deep into the next bracket you end up). (Note: Only the portion of your taxable income that falls into the higher bracket will be subject to the higher rate.)
  • Conversion taxes: If you don't have enough cash available outside of your retirement account to pay the tax on a full conversion, a partial conversion might be a better alternative. It may make sense to figure out how much conversion tax you can pay without dipping into IRA assets, and then figure out how much you can convert for that amount of tax. Of course, if you have to sell appreciated assets in taxable accounts to pay the conversion tax (and thereby incur capital gains tax in the process), then the analysis may be more complex. You'll probably want to get some help crunching the numbers from your tax advisor or account.

Can I put my converted assets into an existing Roth IRA?
You should be able to convert all or part of your traditional IRA to an existing Roth IRA. Check with your account provider.

Will I need to sell and go to cash to convert to a Roth IRA?
No. You can convert your traditional retirement assets directly into a Roth IRA without going to cash first.

Do I still have to take a required minimum distribution from my traditional IRA if I convert it to a Roth IRA before the end of the year?
If you convert your traditional retirement assets to a Roth IRA after age 70½, you are still required to take one final minimum distribution for the year you convert (if you haven't already done so). Keep in mind that the IRS has suspended required minimum distribution rules for the 2009 tax year only.

I've heard from one source that converting to a Roth is always a bad idea, while another says it's always a slam dunk. So, which is it?
We suggest that you be wary of extreme points of view. It’s impossible for any advisor to know a person’s unique situation—and whether a Roth would be advantageous—without going over the person’s facts one on one. A Roth conversion may or may not make sense for you, depending on your individual circumstances. So, it’s best to keep an open mind.

One important point, however, is that converting today means incurring a real and permanent tax liability now in hopes that it will pay off at some distant point in the future. Unfortunately, you won't know for sure if the conversion was the right move until you're ready to withdraw the money in retirement.

With the stock market still well below its previous highs, is this a good time to convert to a Roth?
The decision to convert has little to do with the size of your portfolio, so no matter what effect the recent stock market fluctuations had on your portfolio, the market shouldn't inform your decision. Instead, base your decision to convert on an objective assessment of your current tax and financial situation and your reasonable expectations for your future tax bracket.

For example, let's say you have a $100,000 traditional IRA. After running the numbers, you find that it doesn't make sense to convert to a Roth IRA because you believe you will end up with more money 20 years from now by leaving your traditional IRA alone. If that same IRA was to drop 20% because of stock market volatility but your circumstances remain the same, you should still leave it alone. If your analysis turns out to be correct, you’ll still end up with more money at the end of the day by leaving the traditional IRA where it is.

Of course, if you were previously planning to convert because a Roth conversion made sense for you before the decline in the value of your account, then go ahead and convert, provided it remains advantageous given your personal circumstances.

Likewise, if you previously converted to a Roth and the value of your conversion balance subsequently declined, you can undo the transaction via the recharacterization process described below, and then reconvert after the required 31-day waiting period.

Finally, it's important to remember that you don’t have to convert your entire account. If you were planning on making a partial conversion of a fixed amount anyway, it shouldn’t matter what the stock market is doing.

How do I switch or convert to a Roth IRA?
If you hold a traditional IRA at Schwab, call a Schwab Roth Conversion Consultant at 800-424-5750 to get started today.

If you hold a traditional IRA at somewhere other than Schwab, you have two options:

  1. Transfer your IRA to an identical IRA at Schwab. When the transfer is complete, you can initiate the conversion to a Roth IRA.
  2. Convert your traditional IRA to a Roth IRA while still custodied at your other institution. When the conversion is complete, you can then initiate the transfer of your Roth IRA to a Schwab Roth IRA.
Is there a deadline for converting?
No, there is no deadline for converting. However, you must convert in 2010 if you'd like the conversion amount to be split equally between your 2011 and 2012 tax returns. (Keep in mind that, your personal situation aside, based on current law, federal income tax rates are likely to rise after 2010). If you convert after 2010, the entire conversion amount will be reported as income in the tax return for the year you convert.

If I have a Traditional, SEP or SIMPLE IRA, can I move money into a Roth IRA? 
Yes. Under current law, you can convert your Traditional, SEP or SIMPLE IRA into a Roth IRA if your modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) is $100,000 or less. However, starting in 2010, the IRS is lifting the MAGI restrictions, meaning everyone with a Traditional, SEP, or Simple IRA will be able to convert their account to a Roth IRA.
 
How long do I have to wait before I can convert my IRA to a Roth IRA?
Traditional IRAs, Rollover IRAs and SEP-IRAs can be converted directly to a Roth IRA at any time. SIMPLE IRAs maintained by your employer can be directly converted to a Roth IRA two years after the date of your initial contribution. The two year holding requirement applies regardless of your age.

What is the deadline for making a Roth IRA conversion?
You must complete your Roth IRA conversion no later than December 31 of the tax year you wish to convert. To ensure that your account is converted by year-end, it is recommended that you submit your paperwork no later than December 15.

Additionally, if you convert by year-end but then decide the conversion wasn't the right decision, you have until October 15 of the following year to recharacterize (undo) that conversion without paying any tax or penalty.

How do I know if I qualify for a Roth conversion?
Currently, you're eligible for a Roth conversion if your MAGI is less than $100,000. The MAGI limit applies both to single individuals and married individuals filing jointly. Married individuals filing separately are not eligible to convert from a Traditional IRA to a Roth IRA unless they have lived apart from their spouse for the entire tax year.

In 2010, the IRS is lifting the MAGI and filing status restrictions for Roth conversions, meaning everyone will be eligible to convert.

I am over 70½ and need to take a required minimum distribution (RMD) from my IRA. Can I convert my assets to a Roth IRA before the RMD deadline to avoid taking this year's distribution?
Although one of the perks of a Roth IRA is that it doesn't require you to take RMDs from your account after you turn age 70½, if you convert after age 70½, you're still required to take one final distribution for the year you convert.

However, as a separate, one-time rule, the IRS suspended RMDs for 2009. Therefore, if your MAGI is below the current limit, you can to convert to a Roth IRA in 2009 and avoid taking this year's distribution. (Keep in mind that RMD rules are scheduled to resume in 2010.)

I am over 70½ and already taking RMDs. If I convert to a Roth IRA can I still take out money without a penalty? How does the 5-year conversion rule work?
First, in a typical year you must first take the RMD from your traditional IRA before converting the remaining balance to a Roth. For 2009 only, however, RMDs have been temporarily suspended. Regarding the 5-year rule on converted balances, it only matters if you're under 59 1/2 when you take the money out. Normally, you can take Roth contributions out at any time without penalty or tax regardless of age. Not so with converted balances. If you're under 59 1/2 at the time of withdrawal and haven't waited at least five years (from January 1st of the year of conversion) you're subject to a 10% federal penalty on the amount that was taxable at the time of conversion (no additional income tax because you already paid that when you converted, just the 10% penalty). Since you are already over 59 1/2, the 5-year conversion rule should not apply (I.e., no 10% penalty). Also, the basic 5-year rule with respect to establishing a Roth should not be an issue assuming you will not reach the earnings level before five years are up (withdrawals are deemed to come out in the following order, per IRS rules: 1) Contributions; 2) Converted amounts on a FIFO basis; 3) Earnings). Keep in mind, there are two 5-year holding periods. For a contribution, it's January 1st for the tax year to which the contribution applies (E.g., If you made a contribution in March of 2009 for the 2008 tax year, then the start date would be January 1, 2008). For a conversion, it's January 1st of the year in which the conversion takes place. In this case, if the conversion establishes the Roth then the starting date should be the same (E.g., A conversion at any time in 2010 would have a January 1, 2010 start date).

See pages 65-69 in IRS Publication 590(especially p. 67 for discussion of 5-year conversion rule)

Congress established the 5-year conversion rule to keep people under age 59 1/2 from converting to a Roth simply to avoid the 10% early withdrawal penalty on their traditional IRAs. You pay the income tax either way, but without the special conversion holding period younger traditional IRA holders who planned on making a withdrawal anyway could just convert to a Roth first and take the money out with no early-withdrawal penalty.

 

IRA Contributions

Where can I find my pre-tax contributions?
For a traditional IRA, you've likely been keeping track of your cumulative non-deductible traditional IRA contributions all along on IRS Form 8606.

How do I find out how much non-taxable contributions I have in my current account?
If you've been keeping track, your most recent IRS Form 8606 will contain the amount of non-tax deductible contributions.

Can I contribute to my Roth IRA once I’ve converted?
Although the IRS is lifting the modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) limit for Roth IRA conversion in 2010, the MAGI limits for Roth contributions still apply.

There is a potential loophole, however. As the law currently stands, starting in 2010, high income earners otherwise not eligible to make Roth contributions could make nondeductible contributions to a traditional IRA and then convert to a Roth the next day with no federal tax consequence whatsoever. It's likely that this isn't what Congress intended, however, so we wouldn't be surprised if Congress writes some sort of anti-abuse provision into the law to prevent high earners from taking advantage of this loophole.

2009 Roth IRA contribution limits
  • Single individual: If you're a single tax filer, you can make the maximum-allowed contribution to a Roth IRA if your MAGI is below $105,000. If your MAGI is between $105,000 and $120,000, then you can contribute some amount less than the full limit. If your MAGI is $120,000 or above, you are not eligible to contribute to a Roth IRA for 2009.
  • Married individuals filing jointly: In this case you can contribute to a Roth IRA, up to a limit, if your MAGI is below $166,000. If your MAGI is between $166,000 and $176,000, then you can contribute some amount less than the full limit. If your MAGI is $176,000 or above, you are not eligible to contribute to a Roth IRA for 2009.
Keep in mind that contributions limits will likely change in 2010. For more information, see 2009 IRA Contribution and Deduction Limits on irs.gov.

 

IRA Recharaterization


What is a recharacterization?
A recharacterization (correction) allows you to reverse an IRA transaction (either a contribution or conversion) under a variety of circumstances. For example:

Contributions: Maybe you made a contribution to a traditional IRA but later decide you want to switch it to a Roth. Or you made a contribution to a Roth IRA early in the year but later earned too much to qualify. Or your income turned out to be lower than you thought, and you want to switch to a traditional IRA because you can now deduct the contribution after all. The reason doesn't matter. The recharacterization rules allow you to reverse the transaction.

Conversions: Maybe you made a conversion from a traditional IRA to a Roth IRA, but the market fell dramatically after your conversion, and you want to reverse the transaction to reconvert at a lower balance to reduce your tax bill. Again, the reason doesn't matter.

For more information, see the recharacterization instructions for IRS Form 8606. The details can get complex, especially when a partial recharacterization is involved, so check with a retirement consultant and your own tax professional concerning your situation. Importantly, keep in mind that there is a deadline: You can make a recharacterization only until October 15 of the year following the calendar year in which you originally contributed or converted.

Can I recharacterize and then reconvert an IRA?
Yes. If you have recharacterized your Roth IRA back to a traditional IRA, you may be able to reconvert to a Roth IRA. You should consult a tax advisor to more fully understand the rules surrounding reconversions, including the required waiting period.

 

Taxes


What are the federal income tax implications of converting?
You will have to pay income taxes on the taxable amount you convert to a Roth. The taxes you pay on the conversion will be calculated based on your marginal income tax bracket and the amount of money you convert from your traditional IRA or 401(k). A conversion is usually reported as income for the tax year the conversion takes place. However, there's a special rule in place for 2010 only: Your conversion amount will be split and reported as income for tax years 2011 and 2012 unless you elect to report the entire conversion amount on your 2010 taxes.

If you want to convert all of your traditional retirement assets, you don’t have to do so at once. If you're worried that converting all of your assets in 2010 will bump you deep into a higher federal income tax bracket, work with your accountant to figure out how much you can convert each year without bumping yourself too far into a higher tax bracket, as doing so could outweigh the potential benefits.

If you convert to a Roth IRA, you’ll need to complete IRS form 8606 to report your “basis” (if any) in your traditional IRA and to report your taxable conversion income to the IRS.

What are the state income tax implications for converting?
Even in states with high tax rates, the top tax bracket kicks in at a lower income level than the federal bracket does. Therefore, the likelihood of moving from a significantly higher to lower (or lower to higher) state bracket based on a change in future income level is less than in the case of federal taxes.

State rates also tend to change less frequently. Of course, tax law can vary significantly from state to state, so you need to take your own situation into account. If you do end up in a lower or higher future state income tax bracket, that likely wouldn’t change the basic decision to convert or not, just the magnitude. If a conversion does or doesn’t make sense at the federal level, a change up or down in state taxes would probably just make it better or worse in absolute terms.

To keep things in perspective, compared to the highest income tax rate in most states, federal taxes are a much more significant factor in your decision to convert to a Roth or not. That said, moving from a low- or no-income-tax state to a high-tax state (or vice versa) might influence the decision. For example, if you make a future move from a high-tax state like New York or California to retire in a state with no state income tax like Texas or Nevada it would work against the decision to convert beforehand. Conversely, a move in the other direction would favorably impact your analysis.

Keep in mind that states don't always conform to federal tax law on every provision. Check with a tax professional who is familiar with your state’s rules.

Why is it so important to pay the conversion tax from money other than my retirement account? Why not just pay the taxes out of my traditional IRA?
If you're under age 59½ and you use some of your traditional IRA money to cover the tax on the conversion, you could end up paying a 10% federal early distribution penalty. (State penalties may also apply.) In addition, if you pay the taxes from your IRA, you will lose the potential benefits of tax-free growth on that amount.

Another factor to think about: If you paid taxes from your IRA at the time of conversion, then there would be no advantage or disadvantage to converting no matter how long the time horizon (the number of years before you started withdrawing money from the Roth), assuming your present and future tax rates are the same. For example, consider the following hypothetical scenario:
  1. Traditional IRA balance = $1,000
  2. Current federal income tax rate = 25%
  3. Future federal income tax rate = 25%

If you pay the 25% conversion tax using IRA funds, you are left investing $750 in your Roth. Assuming an average annual return of 6%, after 20 years you will have $2,405 in your Roth. If, instead, you left your traditional IRA alone and earned the same return, you would have $3,207 after 20 years. Assuming the same tax rate of 25%, you would end up with exactly the same amount after withdrawing the money and paying $802 in federal income taxes: $2,405.

Of course, converting to a Roth would be worse if you were under 59½ at the time of conversion and used IRA funds to pay the tax since you would also incur a 10% federal penalty (state penalty and taxes may also apply).

You still need to account for the “opportunity cost” of paying the conversion tax with funds available outside of your retirement account, since that money could have been invested all along if you just did nothing and left your traditional IRA alone.

However, as you factor in the hypothetical opportunity cost in your analysis, remember that the ongoing return lost to taxes each year and long-term capital gains tax at liquidation of these outside funds are likely less than the ordinary income tax rate you would incur on a future withdrawal from a traditional IRA (which is why there would be a slight advantage with the Roth conversion if you paid the conversion tax with outside funds, even if the future tax bracket remained the same).

What are the chances that the tax-free nature of a Roth IRA will be reversed?
At this time there is no indication that the Roth IRA's tax-free nature will be eliminated. Of course, tax law is subject to change, so a key part of any decision to contribute or convert to a Roth IRA is what you expect your current and future income tax rates to be. Keep in mind that your future income tax rate does not simply depend on your expected level of future taxable income, which is difficult enough to project. It also depends on the tax brackets that may or may not be in place far into the future, not to mention whether our current overall tax system will continue to remain in place (for example graduated tax rates vs. flat tax).

Given government deficits and the likelihood that income tax rates are heading higher, is now a good time to convert to a Roth IRA?
Unless government spending is reduced dramatically, the general consensus is that taxes can only go higher at the federal, state and local levels. Of course, there is a limit at which higher taxes would have a negative effect on the economy, defeating the goal of higher revenue collection. If combined income tax rates (federal, state and local) rise too much, economic activity could fall significantly, paradoxically reducing overall tax revenue.

Policy aside, whatever happens with respect to future tax rates and spending at the federal, state, and local levels, the best you can do is to create a plan based on what you know now about current tax law and where you expect to be personally with respect to future income. While the future may be impossible to predict with absolute certainty, you likely have a better idea of your future situation than of what the federal or state governments might do.

Assuming our current system of graduated tax brackets based on personal income levels remains in place, you will still have a lot of control over how you structure your income. For example, if you have a large retirement portfolio, you can place tax-free municipal bonds and assets that generate long-term capital gains in your taxable accounts so that your marginal tax bracket in retirement ends up being much lower than during your working years—which would make a Roth conversion now less attractive.

On the other hand, your traditional IRA balance may be so large that required minimum distributions (RMDs) starting at age 70½ would push you into a much higher income tax bracket—which would favor a Roth conversion now.

Because the future of taxes is so uncertain, it might make sense to extend your diversification policy beyond stocks, bonds and cash to include diversification based on tax treatment, as well. By holding some money in a taxable account, some money in a traditional IRA, and some money in a Roth, you can better manage your future retirement cash flows to take advantage of whatever happens to the tax structure or your personal situation.

Just as you should not put all your investment eggs in one asset basket, you need to be careful about taking an all-or-nothing approach with respect to the type of retirement accounts you chose.

Is the 2-year payment of Roth IRA conversion taxes a one-time deal?
Yes. In 2010 only, your conversion income will be split evenly and reported on your 2011 and 2012 federal income taxes unless you elect to include the entire amount on your 2010 taxes instead (which might not be a bad idea if you expect your marginal tax rate to increase in 2011). However, you must convert by December 31, 2010, to take advantage of the 2011/2012 split.

Do I need to pay taxes on traditional IRA gains when I convert to a Roth?
Yes. When you convert your traditional IRA to a Roth IRA, you must pay taxes on the amount converted from pre-tax contributions plus any investment gains. If you've made nondeductible contributions to your traditional IRA in the past (hopefully, tracked all along on IRS Form 8606), you can't pick and choose which portion of the traditional IRA money you want to convert to a Roth.

The IRS looks at all assets within a traditional IRA as a whole when it comes to distributions, including Roth conversions. Traditional IRA balances are combined so that the amount converted consists of a prorated portion of taxable and nontaxable money. For more on the aggregation rule, see IRS Publication 590.
 

Estate planning


Can converting to a Roth IRA be beneficial as an estate planning tool?
Yes. Many people will want to consider converting to a Roth IRA for estate-planning purposes, as there are a number of potential benefits:
  • Unlike traditional IRAs, Roth IRAs don't require people age 70½ or older to take minimum distributions, which means your account can continue to grow tax-free until your heirs are ready to withdraw the money. If your spouse inherits the Roth account, he or she will not be required to take any minimum distributions, either.
  • By paying the conversion tax up front, you eliminate the income tax your heirs would otherwise have to pay on withdrawals from an inherited traditional IRA.
  • Converting to a Roth will reduce your taxable estate by the amount of income tax you pay to convert. The Roth IRA balance will still be included in your taxable estate.
 If I leave my Roth to my heirs, will they have to pay income taxes when they take withdrawals?
Under current tax law, no. Because you paid the income taxes up front on your contributions or when you converted, your heirs will not incur any further income tax on the inherited account. The Roth IRA balance is included in your taxable estate for estate tax purposes, however, just as a traditional IRA would be.